Comments on: More thoughts on the Draft http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/ Thu, 17 May 2012 20:46:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Steve http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11527 Steve Tue, 08 May 2007 17:11:15 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11527 T Rick--I believe that it is essential that Stanton gets de-constructed as a player, if he is going to be a future contributor at all. I have read that some scouts believed that he had the mechanics and footwork of a high school sophomore and that their is some belief among scouts that the yahoo's who consisted of the Sparty coaching staff during Stanton's career should have been canned just for squandering Stanton's talent alone. Martz has a proven track record of developing QB's in this league. I think that with patience, if Stanton is up to the challenge, the Lions may eventually reap benefits from Stanton. The unfortunate reality is that they had more immediate needs for their second round draft pick, in my opinion. I do think that the Lions will promote from within, or find another Ernie Zampese/Air Coryell protege to assume the helm if Martz should happen to leave. As time marches on, I think it is a lot less likely than many experts believe that their is actually a desire for the eccentric Martz on the available coaching market. In regards to Stanton, his collegiate performance is undefendable. I compared him to Mike McMahon for a reason, even if the comparison was a reach. I think that Stanton has the ability to surpass Dan Orlovsky, but it is highly questionable whether or not that will translate to legitimate NFL talent or not. T Rick–I believe that it is essential that Stanton gets de-constructed as a player, if he is going to be a future contributor at all. I have read that some scouts believed that he had the mechanics and footwork of a high school sophomore and that their is some belief among scouts that the yahoo’s who consisted of the Sparty coaching staff during Stanton’s career should have been canned just for squandering Stanton’s talent alone.

Martz has a proven track record of developing QB’s in this league. I think that with patience, if Stanton is up to the challenge, the Lions may eventually reap benefits from Stanton. The unfortunate reality is that they had more immediate needs for their second round draft pick, in my opinion.

I do think that the Lions will promote from within, or find another Ernie Zampese/Air Coryell protege to assume the helm if Martz should happen to leave. As time marches on, I think it is a lot less likely than many experts believe that their is actually a desire for the eccentric Martz on the available coaching market.

In regards to Stanton, his collegiate performance is undefendable. I compared him to Mike McMahon for a reason, even if the comparison was a reach. I think that Stanton has the ability to surpass Dan Orlovsky, but it is highly questionable whether or not that will translate to legitimate NFL talent or not.

]]> By: Steve http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11526 Steve Tue, 08 May 2007 16:53:22 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11526 Nice site RotoRob. Lions fans are a paranoid and fatalistic lot. We have legitimate reasoning for experiencing buyer's remorse when it comes to selecting skill players in the top 10. With that in mind, if Johnson is as good as advertised, the Lions offense will be lethal next year, especially, if OT George Foster and Edwin Mulitalo are the upgrades they appear to be over the likes of Ross Verba, Rex Tucker, and Rich DeMulling. Nice site RotoRob. Lions fans are a paranoid and fatalistic lot. We have legitimate reasoning for experiencing buyer’s remorse when it comes to selecting skill players in the top 10. With that in mind, if Johnson is as good as advertised, the Lions offense will be lethal next year, especially, if OT George Foster and Edwin Mulitalo are the upgrades they appear to be over the likes of Ross Verba, Rex Tucker, and Rich DeMulling.

]]> By: T Rick http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11524 T Rick Tue, 08 May 2007 13:20:13 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11524 Here is the problem with taking Stanton for Martz to play with, Martz will be a head coach somewhere next year and we will have a new coordinator and a new offensive system. To me that is not the way to bring up a new qb prospect. As soon as he learns this complicated system, we'll change to something else. Plus Martz is totally reworking Drew's mechanics, something else the new coordinator might not like and change back when he gets here. Plus Stanton stinks. In todays college football, with 600 or so bowl games, he did not once take MSU to a bowl game!!! He had 3 gimme wins every year, all he needed from a mediocre Big 10 was 3 more and he couldn't get the job done.You can say what you will about the rest of his team not being any good, however last time I checked the Lion roster wasn't exactly filled with pro bowl players. Here is the problem with taking Stanton for Martz to play with, Martz will be a head coach somewhere next year and we will have a new coordinator and a new offensive system. To me that is not the way to bring up a new qb prospect.
As soon as he learns this complicated system, we’ll change to something else. Plus Martz is totally reworking Drew’s mechanics, something else the new coordinator might not like and change back when he gets here.

Plus Stanton stinks. In todays college football, with 600 or so bowl games, he did not once take MSU to a bowl game!!! He had 3 gimme wins every year, all he needed from a mediocre Big 10 was 3 more and he couldn’t get the job done.You can say what you will about the rest of his team not being any good, however last time I checked the Lion roster wasn’t exactly filled with pro bowl players.

]]> By: RotoRob http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11520 RotoRob Mon, 07 May 2007 19:58:06 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11520 I agree that the Lions had to grab Johnson under the circumstances. A smart move with Martz around. Our take: http://www.rotorob.com/football/nfl-draft-recap-calvin-johnson/ I agree that the Lions had to grab Johnson under the circumstances. A smart move with Martz around. Our take:

http://www.rotorob.com/football/nfl-draft-recap-calvin-johnson/

]]> By: Steve http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11501 Steve Fri, 04 May 2007 17:50:58 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11501 Agreed about Brohm and Henne, among others. Apparently, the Lions either don't believe they will be drafting that high or really wanted to get a young QB so that he has as much time as possible with Martz, especially with the trade of McCown. I think John David Booty will also have a decent NFL future, too. I am little paranoid that if, or when, the Lions struggle that the Lions may consider throwing Stanton to the wolves, especially if it is a popular move with the fans. I think Stanton is at least a year, more likely two, from being ready to play. Agreed about Brohm and Henne, among others. Apparently, the Lions either don’t believe they will be drafting that high or really wanted to get a young QB so that he has as much time as possible with Martz, especially with the trade of McCown. I think John David Booty will also have a decent NFL future, too. I am little paranoid that if, or when, the Lions struggle that the Lions may consider throwing Stanton to the wolves, especially if it is a popular move with the fans. I think Stanton is at least a year, more likely two, from being ready to play.

]]> By: Father Figure http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11478 Father Figure Thu, 03 May 2007 03:00:03 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11478 You have a strong analysis, but I take issue with the comment about the QB class in next year's draft. Brian Brohm is a better pro prospect than anybody in this draft, even Russell. Chad Henne and Andre Woodson are both more accomplished than Drew Stanton. They both throw better balls that he does, as well. Hopefully he works out, but there are some guys coming out next year that would have been nice to have. You have a strong analysis, but I take issue with the comment about the QB class in next year’s draft. Brian Brohm is a better pro prospect than anybody in this draft, even Russell. Chad Henne and Andre Woodson are both more accomplished than Drew Stanton. They both throw better balls that he does, as well. Hopefully he works out, but there are some guys coming out next year that would have been nice to have.

]]> By: joe stanter http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11475 joe stanter Thu, 03 May 2007 00:24:44 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11475 From Webster's: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Irregardless irregardless One entry found for irregardless. Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s Function: adverb Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless nonstandard : REGARDLESS usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. From Webster’s:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Irregardless

irregardless
One entry found for irregardless.

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: “ir-i-’gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

]]> By: Trevor http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-11474 Trevor Wed, 02 May 2007 22:52:21 +0000 http://www.detroitlionsblog.com/wp/archives/2007/05/02/more-thoughts-on-the-draft/#comment-11474 irregardless of whether or not they chose to draft a QB in ‘07. Its regardless, irregardless isn't a word. irregardless of whether or not they chose to draft a QB in ‘07.

Its regardless, irregardless isn’t a word.

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