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	<title>Comments on: Newly Unveiled, The Detroit Ramaneers!</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not deny that Bodden represents an upgrade, but we can't cloud the Darby and Kelly of a few seasons ago with their current models.

Their respective knowledge and character is a major plus, but I can't accept that Kelly will be noticeably better than Fernando Bryant and Bodden is new to the Tampa-2.

Darby, Cody, Moore, Bradley(?) and Redding might constitute a better D-Line rotation with the addition of another contributor, but I think you're selling short the total package of Shaun Rogers.  He has a knack as a playmaker, a rare commodity in the interior of a defensive line, in my opinion.

In regards to the draft picks, what do names like Jonathan Taylor, AJ Davis, Johnny Baldwin, and Artose Pinner represent to you?  Let alone Mike Williams, Joey Harrington, Shaun Cody, Teddy Lehman, Boss Bailey and Charles Rogers?  Matt Millen and the Lions collegiate scouting staff are horrible in their ability to evaluate talent.   That third rounder from Cleveland will eventually get burnt in some way or another.

I am glad you are positive about the Lions current off-season, I am finding it increasingly difficult to accept that they are heading in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not deny that Bodden represents an upgrade, but we can&#8217;t cloud the Darby and Kelly of a few seasons ago with their current models.</p>
<p>Their respective knowledge and character is a major plus, but I can&#8217;t accept that Kelly will be noticeably better than Fernando Bryant and Bodden is new to the Tampa-2.</p>
<p>Darby, Cody, Moore, Bradley(?) and Redding might constitute a better D-Line rotation with the addition of another contributor, but I think you&#8217;re selling short the total package of Shaun Rogers.  He has a knack as a playmaker, a rare commodity in the interior of a defensive line, in my opinion.</p>
<p>In regards to the draft picks, what do names like Jonathan Taylor, AJ Davis, Johnny Baldwin, and Artose Pinner represent to you?  Let alone Mike Williams, Joey Harrington, Shaun Cody, Teddy Lehman, Boss Bailey and Charles Rogers?  Matt Millen and the Lions collegiate scouting staff are horrible in their ability to evaluate talent.   That third rounder from Cleveland will eventually get burnt in some way or another.</p>
<p>I am glad you are positive about the Lions current off-season, I am finding it increasingly difficult to accept that they are heading in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're definitely right. The Lions will need to draft another two guys that can step-in and make a significant impact right away if they're going to repeat or improve their record from last year. I think they can get that in the first round at OL or DL in the first round, and at LB or RB in the second, and those two third round draft picks could provide depth at DL and LB.

That being said, these off-season acquisitions DO represent talent upgrades at their respective positions from last year.

Brian Kelly (if healthy) is better (at least in the T2 system) than either starting CB the Lions had last year: at the number two CB spot he'll be solid.

Bodden is much, much better than any CB the Lions  had last year, no matter what the system, but he appears to be especially well suited to the Tampa 2.

The Chuck Darby signing was also a talent upgrade over what the Lions had left at the DT position after trading Rogers for Bodden and a 3rd round draft pick. Darby, if healthy will do fine, and adding two other players to positions of need to replace Rogers (who is not really a full-time guy anyway), might actually be a talent upgrade when you consider the time on the field. 

These free-agency signings are not big money guys, but they are upgrades at positions of need. They are players that when healthy are starters on most teams.

So, I think the Lions are doing quite well with these picks. Looking at what they have to work with, I'm very happy with the way things are progressing this off-season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re definitely right. The Lions will need to draft another two guys that can step-in and make a significant impact right away if they&#8217;re going to repeat or improve their record from last year. I think they can get that in the first round at OL or DL in the first round, and at LB or RB in the second, and those two third round draft picks could provide depth at DL and LB.</p>
<p>That being said, these off-season acquisitions DO represent talent upgrades at their respective positions from last year.</p>
<p>Brian Kelly (if healthy) is better (at least in the T2 system) than either starting CB the Lions had last year: at the number two CB spot he&#8217;ll be solid.</p>
<p>Bodden is much, much better than any CB the Lions  had last year, no matter what the system, but he appears to be especially well suited to the Tampa 2.</p>
<p>The Chuck Darby signing was also a talent upgrade over what the Lions had left at the DT position after trading Rogers for Bodden and a 3rd round draft pick. Darby, if healthy will do fine, and adding two other players to positions of need to replace Rogers (who is not really a full-time guy anyway), might actually be a talent upgrade when you consider the time on the field. </p>
<p>These free-agency signings are not big money guys, but they are upgrades at positions of need. They are players that when healthy are starters on most teams.</p>
<p>So, I think the Lions are doing quite well with these picks. Looking at what they have to work with, I&#8217;m very happy with the way things are progressing this off-season.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riley--I agree.  These players will have a positive influence, especially Darby and Kelly, if they can remain healthy.  However, be honest, if these players were available and Jimmy Lake, Rod Marinelli, and Joe Barry were not on the Lions coaching staff, would these signings be notable?

That's my point.  These players are veterans who will not represent upgrades, except in knowledge and character.  If the Lions don't find instant contributors in the draft, it will be a very long season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riley&#8211;I agree.  These players will have a positive influence, especially Darby and Kelly, if they can remain healthy.  However, be honest, if these players were available and Jimmy Lake, Rod Marinelli, and Joe Barry were not on the Lions coaching staff, would these signings be notable?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my point.  These players are veterans who will not represent upgrades, except in knowledge and character.  If the Lions don&#8217;t find instant contributors in the draft, it will be a very long season.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian Kelly is a definite talent upgrade at CB.

Chuck Darby will be a starter. 

Both are strong character guys and vocal team leaders.

These are excellent acquisitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Kelly is a definite talent upgrade at CB.</p>
<p>Chuck Darby will be a starter. </p>
<p>Both are strong character guys and vocal team leaders.</p>
<p>These are excellent acquisitions.</p>
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